The Third Wheel Podcast Series: ESG In Australia (Podcast) – Corporate Governance

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We explore topical environmental, social and governance issues in Australia.

Each episode, partners Timothy Stutt and Melanie Debenham are joined by an expert Third Wheel guest to explore the issues from their unique perspectives.

Mel is an expert on critical business environment, planning, heritage and Aboriginal title regulation in Australia. Tim specializes in ESG from a corporate governance perspective, including market disclosure, risk management and shareholder engagement/activism.

We would like to thank the traditional custodians of the lands Mel and Tim are recording, the Whadjuk people of the Noongar Nation in Perth and the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation in Sydney. We wish to recognize and respect their continued culture and the contribution they make to the life of this country.

Episode 15 – Climate Change and ESG Litigation Trends in the Consumer Sector with Jojo Fan and Mark Smyth

In this episode, Tim invites our litigation team to share insights on climate change and ESG litigation. Jojo Fan from our Hong Kong office and Mark Smyth from the Sydney office discuss rapidly growing developments globally, including greenwashing, inadequate disclosure and challenges for manufacturing and governments. They share their thoughts on what the future of climate litigation may hold for the consumer sector.

Episode 14 – Fix the Workplace, Not the Worker with David Burroughs, Westpac

In this episode, our Employment, Industrial Relations and Safety team takes the wheel, with Olga Klimczak and Nerida Jessup welcoming special guest David Burroughs, Head of Mental Health at Westpac. This is an important and lively discussion about how organizations shape work and workplace culture so that our jobs are “good” for our mental health. David speaks candidly about the issues facing businesses and cautions against high-visibility, low-impact wellness programs. For companies that succeed – by giving people the opportunity to truly thrive – the business case is profound for a strategy that encompasses performance, productivity and sanity. And in a podcast first, David checks out our closing remarks – you’ll want to note “psychological agility”!

Episode 13 – Australian Federal Election with Graham Phelan, Frontier Economics

Mel and Tim discuss a key pre-election battleground, climate change action, with Graham Phelan, ESG Lead for Frontier Economics. Graham looks back to previous election results to predict whether action on climate change and recent natural disasters will influence the outcome of the 2022 election – and wonders if it’s time to put carbon pricing back on the agenda. day. Graham discusses the importance of ESG to Australia’s international competitiveness and the proactive steps taken by companies and financial regulators to protect the economy and the environment. Finally, we tackle the issues that affect voters’ pockets – inflation, interest rates, gasoline and (of course) beer prices.

Episode 12 – Authenticity with James Palmer

Tim and Mel discuss the purpose of the firm with HSF’s former chairman and senior partner, James Palmer, one of the UK’s leading M&A, capital markets and corporate lawyers, with extensive experience in corporate governance and regulation. James explores the general framework of ESG and the importance of approaching business strategy with purpose and authenticity. James speaks passionately about navigating the ethical dimension of ESG issues, from the “just transition” in the energy sector to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Episode 11 – #BreakTheBias with Rebecca Maslen-Stannage and Andrew Pike

In this episode, Mel celebrates International Women’s Day 2022 with HSF President and Senior Partner Rebecca Maslen-Stannage and Andrew Pike, Executive Partner for Asia and Australia. Rebecca and Andrew share some personal thoughts on the progress made and the challenges that remain to achieve lasting change in the legal profession. They discuss the importance of a diverse and inclusive culture for #BreakTheBias (this year’s theme) – including the importance of recognizing that bias still exists and “calling it out when you see it”.

Episode 10 – All eyes on COP27 with Silke Goldberg

In the first episode of 2022, Tim and Mel are joined by Silke Goldberg, global head of ESG and climate change at HSF. Silke embarks on a journey through time to address major ESG issues. After a ‘two-speed COP’ last year, Silke says everything is on the line at COP27 in Egypt in November, including investment opportunities and the final building blocks of a long-awaited global carbon market .

Previous episodes

Listen to our 2021 episodes below.

Episode 1 – Inaugural episode with ESG insights from Herbert Smith Freehills CEO Justin D’Agostino


Episode 2 – Evolution of Mandatory ESG Due Diligence in the EU with Herbert Smith Freehills, Head of Global Business and Human Rights Practice, Antony Crockett


Episode 3 – Innovation in Modern Slavery with Shaeron Yapp and Gemma Wilford of Human Rights Resources and Energy Collaborative


Episode 4 – Climate Litigation with Mark Smyth


Episode 5 – The future is now! Renewable Energy in Australia with Dr Cameron Kelly, Australian Renewable Energy Agency


Episode 6 – Asking the Right Questions with Brooke Massender, Global Head of Pro Bono for Herbert Smith Freehills


Episode 7 – It’s Not About the Money, Money, Money with Lewis McDonald, Global Head of Energy for Herbert Smith Freehills


Episode 8 – Enough with Olga Klimczak, Executive Counsel, Employment, IR and Safety for Herbert Smith Freehills


Episode 9 – Wiyi Yani U Thangani (Women’s Voices) with Charlee-Sue Frail, Former Wiyi Yani U Thangani Advisor and Dusseldorp Forum Board Member


Episode 10 – All Eyes on COP27 with Silke Goldberg, Global Head of ESG at HSF and Head of the Company’s Climate Change Practice


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Helen D. Jessen